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Lucas Gelfond's avatar

this was awesome — have you seen Jon Rafman's "Counterfeit Poast" ? from 2022 and using GANs, the only AI video stuff I've really loved, partially because it is SO WEIRD / the sort of thing impossible to produce without the tools and, of course, bears all of the flaws of the medium: too many fingers, unexplainable artifacts, etc

https://dis.art/counterfeit-poast

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Celine Nguyen's avatar

thank you for sharing this! I haven't seen it before and really enjoyed it—totally agree that the flaws of the medium (the strange digital quality of the first woman speaking; how she's awkwardly superimposed over the backing video) are so present here, in a really delightful way…the still images of couples kissing with weirdly distorted faces are some of my favorite parts tbh

I saw another Rafman film last year and was not a fan (doesn't really make use of AI, mostly 3D modeling https://www.180studios.com/exhibitions-and-performances/minor-daemon), partly because the flaws of the medium were a bit TOO evident and the overarching narrative felt pretty weak—but "Counterfeit Poast" is much more compelling; just enough smoothness, just enough roughness to showcase the delightfully specific qualities of GAN art

I also love that the first woman narrating is describing a very specific meta-narrative of AI: she's describing a film that NO one else has seen except her, to the point where we, the viewers, wonder if the film exists at all or if it's this deepfake fantasy that she's imagined up, and is now spreading "fake news" by talking about this film at all these dinner parties

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